Ich glaube es gibt zwei Gründe, warum die deutsche Presse tatsächlich sehr mager über die USA berichtet:
Zum einen die Prioritätensetzung:
Die grüne Journaille merkt gerade, dass die großen Projekte ihre Lieblingspartei ausnahmlos krachend scheitern und nur Schaden verursachen. Sowas ist natürlich unangenehm; jetzt sind sie damit beschäftigt, sich aus ihrem parteiischen Getröte der letzten Jahrzehnte rauszuwinden und/oder nach Schuldigen zu suchen, was sich zunehmend schwieriger gestaltet - und das alles unter dem finanziellen Damoklesschwert.
Zum anderen die Ahnungslosigkeit:
Ich bin mir relativ sicher, dass so gut wie kein Journalist sich überhaupt im Detail mit der US-Wahl beschäftigt hat.
Welchen Stuss die Presse schreibt, merkt man ja vor allem dann, wenn man sich mit einem Thema selbst auskennt. Ging mir bspw. im Jahr 2010 so, als ich in Bangkok residiert habe als dort das Bürgerkrieglein ausgebrochen ist; was die deutsche Presse über diesen Konflikt geschrieben hat war völlig haarsträubender Unsinn. Nicht nur oberflächlich, sondern z.T. völlig falsch. Man hatte da sofort gemerkt, dass die Journalisten überhaupt nicht recherchiert, sondern nur ihr eigenes Weltbild auf den nächst greifbaren, politischen Konflikt projeziert haben.
Genauso wird das dann auch bei der US-Wahl laufen: Links gegen rechts, gut gegen böse, dann noch schnell ein paar Twitterschnipsel zusammengesucht und fertig ist das Pamphlet. Wer sich aber mit derartigem Käse zufrieden gibt, kann auch keine fünf Artikel am Tag produzieren. Das gibt maximal einen pro Woche, wenn Trump mal wieder einen Spruch rausgehauen hat der nicht schon in einem vorherigen Artikel verwurstet wurde.
Zitat von F.Alfonzo im Beitrag #2Welchen Stuss die Presse schreibt, merkt man ja vor allem dann, wenn man sich mit einem Thema selbst auskennt. Ging mir bspw. im Jahr 2010 so, als ich in Bangkok residiert habe als dort das Bürgerkrieglein ausgebrochen ist; was die deutsche Presse über diesen Konflikt geschrieben hat war völlig haarsträubender Unsinn. Nicht nur oberflächlich, sondern z.T. völlig falsch. Man hatte da sofort gemerkt, dass die Journalisten überhaupt nicht recherchiert, sondern nur ihr eigenes Weltbild auf den nächst greifbaren, politischen Konflikt projeziert haben.
Zitat von Michael Crichton Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. I'd point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. In court, there is the legal doctrine of falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, which means untruthful in one part, untruthful in all. But when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper. When, in fact, it almost certainly isn't. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia.
-- Non delectent verba nostra, sed prosint. - Seneca, Epistulae morales ad Lucilium, 75, 3
Nicht zu früh freuen. Vor vier Jahren hielt ich es auch für unmöglich, dass eine Mumie in Menschengestalt den besten Präsidenten der USA seit mehr als 20 Jahren schlagen würde. Und offiziell ist genau das passiert. Wenn ich auf Twitter sehe, wie viele Wahlscheine plötzlich wieder auftauchen, so fühle ich mich doch sehr an die Wahlnacht vor vier Jahren erinnert, als Trump eigentlich als Sieger feststand und durch ganz viele Wunder am Morgen verloren hatte.
Ich hoffe es nicht, aber ich wäre nicht völlig schockiert, wenn in Pennsylvania, Michigan und Wisconsin ganz viele Briefwahlstimmen auftauchen, und wir nach einer Wahlbeteiligung von mehr als 90% plötzlich vor einem blauen Wunder stehen. Es ist für mich völlig unbegreiflich dass eine der reichsten und fortschrittlichsten Nationen der Welt ein Wahlsystem haben kann, über das Indien noch lachen würde.
Zitat von Llarian im Beitrag #5wir nach einer Wahlbeteiligung von mehr als 90% plötzlich vor einem blauen Wunder stehen
Etwa so (ist von heute). (Ich weiß, daß es sich da um Probeläufe der Anzeigensysteme handelt, um die für die Wahlnacht zu testen & daß das auch bei uns immer wieder mal mitgeschnitten wird.)
"Les hommes seront toujours fous; et ceux qui croient les guérir sont les plus fous de la bande." - Voltaire
Zitat Collin Rugg@CollinRugg JUST IN: The Department of Justice and Jack Smith immediately end their cases against Donald Trump.
The DOJ cited their policy that presidents can't be prosecuted however it was assumed they would work up until the "last day."
"What's interesting here is that the DOJ is moving to end them even before he takes office, citing the longstanding DOJ policy that sitting presidents can't be prosecuted."
"And there were some thought that maybe special counsel Jack Smith was going to sprint through the finish line, was going to work up until the last day, force Trump to fire him, wait till a new Attorney General was appointed."
"But that does not appear to be the thinking inside the department. The thinking is that these cases can't go forward." 7:34 PM · Nov 6, 2024
Zitat Special counsel Jack Smith expected to wind down Trump prosecutions: Sources
Special counsel Jack Smith is in active talks with senior leadership at the Justice Department evaluating ways he can end his prosecutions of President-elect Donald Trump, sources familiar with the matter told ABC News.
The decision is based on longstanding Department of Justice policy that a sitting president cannot face criminal prosecution while in office, sources said.
It is unclear as of today how Smith's prosecutors will approach dismissing both the federal election subversion case in Washington, D.C., and their ongoing appeal of Judge Aileen Cannon's dismissal of the classified documents case.
Smith was appointed to his position by Attorney General Merrick Garland in November 2022 to investigate Trump and his allies' efforts to overturn the 2020 election as well as Trump's alleged unlawful possession of highly classified documents he took from his time in the White House.
On June 8, 2023, Smith indicted Trump on charges he unlawfully retained classified documents and obstructed the government's efforts to retrieve them. Trump pleaded not guilty to the charges in a federal court in Florida.
On Aug. 1, 2023, Trump was indicted on four felony counts related to his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Trump also pleaded not guilty in federal court to those charges.
Zitat 2 hours ago - World Scoop: Elon Musk joined Trump's call with Zelensky
Donald Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday included two surprises: Elon Musk was also on the line, and Zelensky was somewhat reassured by what he heard from the president-elect, two sources with knowledge of the call tell Axios.
Why it matters: The new details of the call underscore how influential Musk could be in the second Trump administration, and the uncertainty over how exactly Trump will approach Ukraine. ... Behind the scenes: The call between Trump and Zelensky lasted around 25 minutes, according to the sources who were briefed on its details.
After Zelensky congratulated Trump, the president-elect said he will support Ukraine, but didn't go into details. Three sources briefed on the call all told Axios that Zelensky felt the call went well and that it did not increase his anxiety about Trump's victory. One source said it "didn't leave Zelensky with a feeling of despair." Musk also weighed in during the call to say he will continue supporting Ukraine through his Starlink satellites, the sources said. Musk did not respond to a request for comment.
Flashback: Zelensky met Trump in September in New York, at which time they discussed the war with Russia and a possible diplomatic path for ending it.
According to three sources with knowledge of that meeting, Trump told Zelensky he would not abandon Ukraine, but wants to give diplomacy a chance. "I promise you will be happy with me," Trump told Zelensky during that meeting, according to a source with knowledge. The Trump campaign declined to comment on Wednesday's call or the previous meeting. In attendance at that meeting was former U.S. ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, a possible Trump pick for secretary of state or another senior post. Grenell is expected to play a leading role in any Ukraine diplomacy.
What they're saying:
"Nothing of what Zelensky and his aides heard from Trump and his team in private has been alarming or made us feel that Ukraine is going to be the one who pays the price." — Source familiar with the conversations
"I had an excellent call with President Trump and congratulated him on his historic landslide victory — his tremendous campaign made this result possible," Zelensky wrote on X after the call on Wednesday. "Strong and unwavering U.S. leadership is vital for the world and for a just peace," Zelensky said, adding that he and Trump agreed to maintain close dialogue.
What to watch: Even though they're wary of potential peace talks, the Ukrainians see some upside in breaking with the current "negative status-quo," one source briefed on government deliberations said.
Three sources with knowledge of Ukrainian government assessments said that Kyiv expects that if peace talks do take place, they will agree to participate but Putin will either reject the talks or take steps that doom them to failure.
Zitat If we don't have free speech, then we don't have a free country. It's as simple as that. If this most fundamental right is allowed to perish, then the rest of our rights and liberties will topple, just like dominoes - one by one, they'll go down. That's why today I'm announcing my plan to shatter the left-wing censorship regime and to reclaim the right to free speech for all Americans - and 'reclaim' is a very important word in this case, because they've taken it away. In recent weeks bombshell reports have confirmed that a sinister group of deep-state bureaucrats, Silicon Valley tyrants, left-wing activists and depraved corporate news media have been conspiring to manipulate and silence the American people. They have collaborated to suppress vital information on everything, from elections to public health. The censorship cartel must be dismantled and destroyed - and it must happen immediately.
And here is my plan.
First: Within hours of my inauguration, I will sign an executive order banning any federal department or agency from colluding with any organization, business or person to censor, limit, categorize or impede the lawful speech of American citizens. I will then ban federal money from being used to label domestic speech as mis- or disinformation. And I will begin the process of identifying and firing every federal bureaucrat who has engaged in domestic censorship, directly or indirectly - whether they are the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Health, Human Services, the FBI, the DOJ, no matter who they are.
Second: I will order the Department of Justice to investigate all parties involved in the new online censorship regime - which is absolutely destructive and terrible - and to aggressively prosecute any and all crimes identified. These include possible violations of federal civil rights law, campaign finance laws, federal election law, securities law and anti-trust laws, the Hatch Act, and a host of other potential criminal civil, regulatory and constitutional offenses. To assist in these efforts I am urging House Republicans to immediately send preservation letters - and we have to do this right now - to the Biden administration, the Biden campaign, and every Silicon Valley tech giant, ordering them not to destroy evidence of censorship.
Third: Upon inauguration as President I will ask Congress to send a bill to my desk revising Section 230 to get big online platforms out of censorship business. From now on digital platforms should only qualify for immunity protection under Section 230 if they meet high standards of neutrality, transparency, fairness and non-discrimination. We should require these platforms to increase their efforts to take down unlawful content, such as child exploitation and promoting terrorism, while dramatically curtailing their power to arbitrarily restrict lawful speech.
Fourth: We need to break up the entire toxic censorship industry that has arisen under the false guise of tackling so-called 'myths' and 'disinformation.' The federal government should stop immediately funding all non-profits and academic programs that support this authoritarian project. If any U.S. university is discovered to have engaged in censorship activities or election interferences in the past, such as flagging social media content for removal or blacklisting, those universities should lose federal research dollars and federal student loan support for a period of five years, and maybe more. We should also enact news laws laying out clear criminal penalties for federal bureaucrats who partner with private entities to do an end run around the constitution and deprive Americans of their first, fourth and fifth Amendment rights - in other words: deprive them of their vote. And once you lose those elections, and once you lose your borders like we have, you no longer have a country.
Furthermore, to confront the problem of major platforms being infiltrated by legions of former deep staters and intelligence officials, there should be a seven year calling-off period before any employee of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DNI, DHS or DOD is allowed to take a job at a company possessing vast quantities of U.S. user data.
Fifth: The time has finally come for Congress to pass a digital Bill of Rights. This should include a right to digital due process. In other words: government officials should need a court order to take down online content, not send information requests such as the FBI was sending to Twitter. Furthermore, when users of big online platforms have their content or accounts removed, throttled, shadow-banned or otherwise restricted, no matter what name they use, they should have the right to be informed that it's happening, the right to a specific explanation of the reason why, and the right to a timely appeal. In addition, all users over the age of 18 should have the right to opt out of content moderation and curation entirely and receive an unmanipulated stream of information if they so choose.
The fight for free speech is a matter of victory or death for America and for survival of Western civilization itself. When I am President, this whole rotten system of censorship and information control will be ripped out of the system at large. There won't be anything left. By restoring free speech we'll begin to reclaim our democracy and save our nation. Thank you - and God bless America.
Wow. Einfach nur wow. Vor allem weil es bei DJT absolut glaubhaft ist dass das keine Bierzeltrede ist, sondern das er auch genau das umsetzen will und wird. Während Deutschland (und Europa) immer mehr Richtung Orwell unterwegs ist, wird in Amiland die Flagge der Freiheit neu entzündet. Einfach nur der Hammer. Alleine für diese Rede müsste man ihn wählen.
Nicht ganz, die Rede ist anscheinend von 2022... nachdem ich, gemessen an den Kommentaren auf X aber offensichtlich nicht der einzige bin der sie vorher noch nie gehört hat, ist das Thema aber aktuell wie eh und je...
Zitat von Llarian im Beitrag #10 Während Deutschland (und Europa) immer mehr Richtung Orwell unterwegs ist, wird in Amiland die Flagge der Freiheit neu entzündet.
Ich hoffe mal, dass es die Fackel der Freiheit ist und nicht die Flagge, die entzündet wird.
Wenn das Aussprechen der Wahrheit »den Falschen« nutzt, dann stimmt etwas mit »den Richtigen« nicht. - Dushan Wegner Ich bin nicht antisemantisch. Einige meiner besten Freunde sind Wörter. Die deutschen Medien informieren mich umfassend und wahrheitsgemäß – außer auf dem Gebiet, von dem ich etwas verstehe.
Zitat wird in Amiland die Flagge der Freiheit neu entzündet.
Ich hoffe mal, dass es die Fackel der Freiheit ist und nicht die Flagge, die entzündet wird.
Der heute vor der Presse:
Zitat Starting on Day 1 we will end Kamala's war on American energy and we will drill baby, drill! That's gotta bring down prices of everything, because energy brought it up. We're going to terminate the green new scam - it's called the Green New Deal: it's a scam. We took almost 10 trillion dollars for nonsense, for absolute nonsense. We'll do bridges, we'll do roads, we'll do things that we need, but we're not going to be spending it, wasting it stupidly and have China laugh at us. In the meantime they're building a coal plant every week, but now I hear it's two coal plants a week. And we're dying for energy - we don't have energy. Germany, as you know, went a little bit like us, and that was the end of Angela, because their whole economy crashed, and their new government is building coal plants all over the place, building new coal plants, nuclear plants and other things because Germany was going to fail. So why are we following these countries that tried it and failed? And they are smart countries. They tried it, they failed. Why are we doing this? Why aren't we creating great energy plants, great sources of energy, instead of playing this game with wind that's ruining everything, killing all your birds, destroying these fields - all these gorgeous fields. You have windmills all over the place, and you have birds - you want to see a bird cemetery? Just go under a windmill: you see thousands of birds dead. The bald eagle - if you kill an eagle, they out you in jail for years! And yet these windmills knock them out like nothing. And nothing happens to the people (who are responsible for that). No: it's a green scam. It's a shame! Look: I'm all for clean energy. I want clean water. I want clean air. But you can't destroy your country over it. I'm a big fan of solar, it it's going to fire our plants. Fire up those plants! We've got to get them going. And the only thing that can do that is fossil fuel right now. And the only thing that can make electricity which we all is is right now: fossil fuel and nuclear.
Zitat von Ulrich Elkmann im Beitrag #13Germany, as you know, went a little bit like us, and that was the end of Angela, because their whole economy crashed, and their new government is building coal plants all over the place, building new coal plants, nuclear plants and other things because Germany was going to fail.
Ich sehe schon die ÖR-Faktenchecker vor meinem geistigen Auge: "Trump verbreitet wieder Fake News - tatsächlich ist Deutschland weiterhin dabei, fleissig nagelneue Kraftwerke zu sprengen, um die Leitungen für die Zukunftsenergie zu entstopfen."
Als ob der Deutsche sich von einem bisschen Dunkelflauten-Realität ins Bockshorn jagen lassen würde. Man erkennt da auch ein bisschen die amerikanische Perspektive; die Möglichkeit, dass man versucht seine CO2-Ziele zu erreichen indem man für horrende Kosten im benachbarten Ausland schmarotzt ergibt sich dort schon aus technischen Gründen gar nicht. Weltrettung in Vorreiterrolle klappt eben nur dann, wenn die Nachbarn nicht mitreiten sondern einem hinterher aus dem Schlamassel helfen.
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