Zitat Adrian Beil@BCCarCounters 🚀 Today’s Space Launch Update: Starship & New Glenn 🌌
Starship by SpaceX The countdown is on for Starship Flight #7—but Mother Nature might have a say in it.
🌧️ What’s happening? Weather concerns, especially rain in Boca Chica, could complicate plans. However, SpaceX is still targeting tomorrow for liftoff.
🕔 Launch Window: Opens 4:00 PM CT / 5:00 PM ET.
🚀 Quick Note: Starship's propellant loading is lightning-fast, taking just 45 minutes! This means we might see a last-minute decision to proceed, so stay tuned!
New Glenn by Blue Origin The New Glenn launch hit a speed bump when an auxiliary power unit froze over due to ice buildup. This system powers key hydraulics, so safety first!
🔧 What’s next? Blue Origin is on it, aiming to fix the issue and retry on Thursday.
🕕 Launch Window: Opens at 1:00 AM ET for three hours.
🌊 Weather Watch: Conditions look 60% favorable, but offshore waves might add some extra drama. 5:47 PM · Jan 14, 2025
Kleine Erinnerung: Heute vor 20 Jahren, am 14.1.2005, ist die Huygens-Sonde der ESA aus dem Saturnmond Titan gelandet.
Windgeschwindigkeit an der Landstelle: 1 km/h aus Nordnordwest Temperatur -180°C Atomsphärendruck 1,45 ATÜ Feuchtigkeit: 50% Methan 131 Stunden vor Sonnenuntergang
"Les hommes seront toujours fous; et ceux qui croient les guérir sont les plus fous de la bande." - Voltaire
Zitat Elon Musk@elonmusk Starship Flight 7 launches tomorrow, provided weather is good 11:22 PM · Jan 14, 2025
SpaceX@SpaceX Starship's seventh flight test is targeted to launch Wednesday, January 15, with a 60-minute launch window opening at 4 p.m. CT. The Starbase team is keeping a close eye on weather conditions
Zitat January 15, 2025 at 4:34 PM Starship won't fly today, after all. In a post on X, SpaceX announced that Starship Flight 7 has been delayed until no earlier than Thursday (Jan. 16) due to weather concerns. The 60-minute window will open at 5 p.m. EST (2200 GMT). You can watch the action live here at Space.com courtesy of SpaceX, or directly via the company. Coverage will begin about 35 minutes before launch.
Zitat SpaceX@SpaceX Due to weather, we're now targeting Thursday, January 16 for Starship's seventh flight test. The 60-minute launch window opens at 4 p.m. CT. 4:19 PM · Jan 15, 2025
Zitat A. Pettit@PettitFrontier·2h Starship is now launching Jan 16 at 4PM. @astro_Pettit will have views from the ISS that day at 4:20PM Central. 420.
@elonmusk has the chance to do the funniest thing ever if he delays the launch just 20 minutes. Either way the ISS will be in range starting about 4:15PM Central. A few minutes of holds may happen, aligning orbits.
And other portions of flight such as entry should still be visible at the right angles. If anyone like @DJSnM has data on the entry time/position, that’d help! 4:23 PM · Jan 15, 2025
Ryan Caton@dpoddolphinpro New Glenn-1 Weather Update: @SLDelta45 Weather Squadron forecasts a 60% Probability of Violation (40% Go) for launch. Recovery area forecast currently shows 16kt winds, gusting 24kt, wave height 3 metres. This is between the 4m (official scrub) and 2m (tried it), so unsure if this is over or under their limit, but it's probably close. @SLDelta45 calls recovery weather "moderate".
A 24 hour delay sees a big improvement for launch, decreasing to a 10% Probability of Violation (90% Go). Recovery forecast shows winds 22 - 23kt, gusting 29 - 32kt, waves 2.4 - 2.6m. @SLDelta45 again calls recovery weather "moderate". 4:46 PM · Jan 15, 2025
Zitat Eric Berger@SciGuySpace BLUE ORIGIN HAS REACHED ORBIT. An awesome moment for the company and Jeff Bezos. The future is bright. 8:16 AM · Jan 16, 2025
Zitat Blue Origin also tried to land New Glenn's reusable first stage on a ship in the Atlantic Ocean, which is nicknamed Jacklyn, after company founder Jeff Bezos' mother. The booster managed to fire up three of its engines in a reentry burn as planned, but it didn't stick the landing.
A successful landing would have been something of a surprise; the company had stressed repeatedly in the leadup to launch that this was a secondary goal that was unlikely to be achieved on NG-1.
Zitat Blue Origin@blueorigin New Glenn safely reached its intended orbit during today's NG-1 mission, accomplishing our primary objective. The second stage is in its final orbit following two successful burns of the BE-3U engines. The Blue Ring Pathfinder is receiving data and performing well.
We lost the booster during descent. We knew landing the first stage on the first try was ambitious. We'll learn, refine, and apply that knowledge to our next launch in the spring. We're thrilled with today's outcome. 9:55 AM · Jan 16, 2025
Nachtrag zu Blue Origin, New Glenn (jemand schlug vor zwei Tagen das Akronym BONG vor).
Zitat Eric Berger@SciGuySpace The hiring of Dave Limp as CEO of Blue Origin, and subsequent launch of New Glenn only a little more than a year later, underscores the importance of leadership in aerospace. Multiple sources report a major culture change at Blue vectored toward results. 7:25 PM · Jan 16, 2025
@mnmcsofgp·1h Any thoughts on what this means for ULA in the medium to long-term?
Eric Berger@SciGuySpace·1h ULA is in very serious trouble because they are owned by companies that do not care to invest in technology, and simply want to harvest profits.
Läßt sich auch am Beispiel Boeing sehen, wo das Fehlen einer ausschließlichen Ausrichtung an greifbaren Resultaten zu greifbaren Resultaten geführt hat.
PS.
Zitat Reductionist@idontwa86202030 one thing I did notice on the booster, which may be related to its loss, was just *how low* their "exoatmospheric braking burn" really was
they started slowing down at ~34km!
Falcon 9 entry burn started at 67km during its last flight
don't think that was nominal
for Transporter 12 the entry burn started much lower, more like 42km, but that's *still higher* than New Glenn, and on a much lower energy RTLS trajectory
another datapoint here is the speed/altitude at which they lost telemetry
6800kph at not even 26km! that's *crazy* fast and low. Falcon 9 was at ~5400kph at the same altitude during the last flight
and keep in mind this is a proven vehicle with well understood margins
even Starship, which is notorious for staying fast really low, only had 4300kph at 26km during flight 5
Blobifi@Blobifie·9h i would have never known this because they used FUCKING IMPERIAL ON THE STREAM
Zitat VSB Space@spacecoastwest Looks like Blue Origin may have experienced a BE-4 RUD during the Exoatmospheric Deceleration Burn (Entry Burn). From camera views, the burn was about 15 seconds shorter than expected, and the engines were not decelerating the booster much at all. The hue of the engine burn does not match that of ascent. It appears to be a fuel-rich combustion rather than the OXrich it is designed for.
This would explain why they were not performing as expected. The LOX tank on New Glenn is in the bottom like Super Heavy, and based on the animation, there is quite a dramatic (and unrealistic) flip prior to the entry burn. My guess is that this could have led to fuel slosh and oxygen starvation, which in return destroys the turbopumps leading to an engine RUD.
This might not be correct at all, but based on my analysis, this might be what led to the loss of “So You are Telling Me There’s a Chance”. 8:43 AM · Jan 16, 2025
23:38 MEZ. Liftoff of Flight 7. Alle 33 Triebwerke haben gezündet. 2.37 MECO. 2:41 Hot staging. 3:37: Go for Booster catch. 6:53 CATCH!!! 12:25. Dafür scheint die Verbindung zum Schiff/zur zweiten Stufe verlorengegangen zu sein. Keine Telemetriedaten. Zur Erinnerung: es war der Erststart der Block 2-Version des Schiffs.
Man darf davon ausgehen, daß die zweite Stufe indertat versagt hat. Ausfall einer der drei zentralen Brennkammern bei 7:30; Ausfall der zweiten bei 8:08, der dritten bei 8:14. Ausfall der ersten der drei äußeren bei 8:18; der zweiten bei 8:23.
PS. Mit Video.
Zitat Alex D.@adavenport354 Starship Flight 7 breaking up and re-entering over Turks and Caicos 11:56 PM · Jan 16, 2025
Zitat Dean Olson @deankolson87 Just saw the most insane #spacedebris #meteorshower right now in Turks and Caicos @elonmusk what is it?? 11:58 PM · Jan 16, 2025
Andrew Smolenski@asmolenski·10m You could see a fire in the joint of where one of the flaps connected to the main ship just prior to loss of comms. LOT to study from data on this and video. @SpaceX I'm sure would like the video for details on path, angle, etc of the debris reentry for analysis.
Zitat TheSpaceEngineer@mcrs987 Starship 33's Reentry corridor. LOTS of debris expected to wash up in the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico. Engine loss in the sequence that it went clearly caused the vehicle to go lopsided and changed the inclination of the trajectory. This is BAD 12:59 AM · Jan 17, 2025
Zitat A. Pettit@PettitFrontier As exciting as this is, it will be used as ammunition against the Starship program for years to come. Chances of 1-2 Starship launches per month in 2025 just dropped significantly. Hopefully a swift & safe resolution will be found to keep launch rates high and spirits higher. 1:03 AM · Jan 17, 2025
Zitat Elon Musk@elonmusk Preliminary indication is that we had an oxygen/fuel leak in the cavity above the ship engine firewall that was large enough to build pressure in excess of the vent capacity.
Apart from obviously double-checking for leaks, we will add fire suppression to that volume and probably increase vent area. Nothing so far suggests pushing next launch past next month. 2:14 AM · Jan 17, 2025
Zitat Scott Manley@DJSnM OK - thanks to @FrankTaylor who gave me a timestamp for a photo showing the explosion, it looks like this is over 11 minutes into the flight, while the stream showed the last telemetry at 8:26 - so the stage flew for a few minutes before exploding. The FTS likely triggered after the ship got too far out of the launch corridor, the starship was falling back down. This is interesting because if the FTS was triggered at engine failure it would have created a much wider debris field. 4:09 AM · Jan 17, 2025
Zitat January 16, 2025 Starship's Seventh Flight Test
The first Starship flight test of 2025 flew with ambitious goals: seeking to repeat our previous success of launching and catching the world’s most powerful launch vehicle while putting a redesigned and upgraded Starship through a rigorous set of flight demonstrations.
It served as a reminder that development testing by definition is unpredictable.
On its seventh flight test, Starship successfully lifted off from Starbase in Texas at 4:37 p.m. CT on Thursday, January 16. At launch, all 33 Raptor engines powered the Super Heavy booster and Starship on a nominal ascent. Following a successful hot-stage separation, the booster successfully transitioned to its boostback burn, with 12 of the planned 13 Raptor engines relighting, to begin its return to the launch site.
Super Heavy then relit all 13 planned middle ring and center Raptor engines and performed its landing burn, including the engine that did not relight for boostback burn. The landing burn slowed Super Heavy down and maneuvered itself to the launch and catch tower arms, resulting in the second successful catch of a Super Heavy booster.
Following stage separation, the Starship upper stage successfully lit all six Raptor engines and performed its ascent burn to space. Prior to the burn’s completion, telemetry was lost with the vehicle after approximately eight and a half minutes of flight. Initial data indicates a fire developed in the aft section of the ship, leading to a rapid unscheduled disassembly.
Starship flew within its designated launch corridor – as all U.S. launches do to safeguard the public both on the ground, on water and in the air. Any surviving pieces of debris would have fallen into the designated hazard area. If you believe you have identified a piece of debris, please do not attempt to handle or retrieve the debris directly. Instead, please contact your local authorities or the SpaceX Debris Hotline at 1-866-623-0234 or at recovery@spacex.com.
As always, success comes from what we learn, and this flight test will help us improve Starship’s reliability as SpaceX seeks to make life multiplanetary. Data review is already underway as we seek out root cause. We will conduct a thorough investigation, in coordination with the FAA, and implement corrective actions to make improvements on future Starship flight tests.
The ship and booster for Starship’s eighth flight test are built and going through prelaunch testing and preparing to fly as we continue a rapid iterative development process to build a fully and rapidly reusable space transportation system.
"Am 28sten August 1749, Mittags mit dem Glockenschlage zwölf, kam ich in Frankfurt am Main auf die Welt. Die Konstellation war glücklich: die Sonne stand im Zeichen der Jungfrau und kulminierte für den Tag; Jupiter und Venus blickten sie freundlich an, Merkur nicht widerwärtig, Saturn und Mars verhielten sich gleichgültig; nur der Mond, der soeben voll ward, übte die Kraft seines Gegenscheins um so mehr, als zugleich seine Planetenstunde eingetreten war. Er widersetzte sich daher meiner Geburt, die nicht eher erfolgen konnte, als bis diese Stunde vorübergegangen." - Goethe, Dichtung und Wahrheit (1811), Kap. 1.
Zitat Jono Casino@JNizzleCizzle Starship Flight 7: Overlaid clips from today's flight with Gravity (2013) and the music from the re-entry scene. 7:41 AM · Jan 17, 2025
Zitat Dave Limp@davill Our Blue Ring Pathfinder hit all our mission objectives within the planned six-hour journey after being inserted into the desired orbit by New Glenn with an apogee of 19,300 km and a perigee of 2,400 km at a 30-degree inclination. GS2 and the BE-3U engines nailed insertion with a less than 1% deviation from our exact orbital injection target. 11:49 PM · Jan 17, 2025
Zitat A. Pettit@PettitFrontier·2h I have just CONFIRMED that @astro_Pettit photographed New Glenn’s launch from the ISS. Just as he did Starship. Despite the holds, orbits, and the odds he did it again. Fortune flew these rockets. Photo release soon on his account. @JeffBezos & @davill will want to see this!
For those curious if he photographed the Starship RUD, that is as of now visually unconfirmed. If he did, it’s buried as a small red streak in a stack of 100s of photos he took that were automatically downlinked and out of his hands. I am having my people search for them.
Zitat Don Pettit@astro_Pettit New Glenn rocket launch photographed from ISS on Jan 16th. This shows New Glenn upper stage in coast phase following booster separation. In this 4 minute time exposure, New Glenn is seen as the faint streak moving from lower right to upper left as it crosses the brighter vertically oriented star trails. This was not an easy photograph to take. ISS was over Oklahoma at the beginning and over central Gulf of Mexico at the end of the exposure. 10:01 PM · Jan 19, 2025
A. Pettit@PettitFrontier New Glenn burned so blue you could see it from SPACE! 🚀
A gift to my colleagues at Blue Origin: a time exposure star trail streaked with the faint path of New Glenn’s orbiting second stage.
I stayed up all night, communicating directly with my father aboard the ISS to make this happen. Every shifting data point on countdown, flight path, and orbital position relative to the ISS itself, I relayed live to him.
And the product he captured is immaculate.
Congratulations on the maiden launch, and to the leadership of @JeffBezos and @davill into this new era.
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