Zitat Elon Musk@elonmusk This slide needs an update, but gives a rough idea of what we’re aiming for with V3 and V4. V3 should be built & tested (maybe flown) by end of this year. V4 is 2027. Probably closer to 150m height and 7500 tons. 11:12 PM · Aug 27, 2025
Zitat SLS@ScottLikedSLS Ship 37 survived like a hundred intentionally removed tiles, 2 fucked up aft flaps, multiple mega stress reentry tests, intentionally yawing left and right & pitching up and down to stress aft flaps AND landed perfectly on target with all 3 engines igniting... absolute goat. 3:11 AM · Aug 27, 2025
Zitat SpaceX just landed its 400th rocket on a drone ship
...in dieser Woche kommt noch der 6500. Start in die Umlaufbahn seit dem Beginn des Raumfahrtzeitalters mit Sputnik 1 am 4. Oktober 1957 hinzu
Apropos runde Zahlen: der Start der Starlink-Mission 10-11 heute um 10:12 MESZ vom Kennedy Space Center ist das erste Mal, daß eine Falcon-9-Erststufe (B1067) zum 30. Mal abgehoben hat. Erststart war am 3. Juni 2021 (CRS-22). Zurzeit sind 22 F9-Booster einsatzbereit. B1097 wartet auf Einteilung zum Erststart; B1098 wird zurzeit in McGregor getestet.
"Les hommes seront toujours fous; et ceux qui croient les guérir sont les plus fous de la bande." - Voltaire
Zitat SpaceX@SpaceX View of Starship landing burn and splashdown on Flight 10, made possible by SpaceX’s recovery team. Starship made it through reentry with intentionally missing tiles, completed maneuvers to intentionally stress its flaps, had visible damage to its aft skirt and flaps, and still executed a flip and landing burn that placed it approximately 3 meters from its targeted splashdown point. 10:32 PM · Aug 28, 2025
Da sich viele über die merkwürdige rostfarbene Einfärbung des Ship bei der Wasserung gewundert haben:
Zitat Elon Musk@elonmusk Worth noting that the heat shield tiles almost entirely stayed attached, so the latest upgrades are looking good!
The red color is from some metallic test tiles that oxidized and the white is from insulation of areas where we deliberately removed tiles. 2:01 AM · Aug 29, 2025
Zitat Elon Musk@elonmusk The Starship landing video in the Indian Ocean was taken from a camera bolted to a Starlink terminal sitting in a kiddie pool 😂 2:05 AM · Aug 29, 2025
Zitat von Ulrich Elkmann im Beitrag #72 Und in dieser Woche kommt noch der 6500. Start in die Umlaufbahn seit dem Beginn des Raumfahrtzeitalters mit Sputnik 1 am 4. Oktober 1957 hinzu. Der genaue Zeitpunkt hängt natürlich vom Wetter ab (wenn es nach Plan geht, mit dem Start der Starlink-Mission 17-7 von Vandenberg am frühen Samstagmorgen um 4:00 MESZ)...
Nr. 6500: Starlink Gruppe 17-7 (24 Satelliten) Falcon 9 Block 5 Vandenberg 30. August 2025, 02:00 Weltzeit. 71. Starlink-Start in diesem Jahr, 536. Start für SpaceX insgesamt; 465. Landung eines Falcon-9-Boosters. Nr. 6501 steht für morgen, So., um 11:30 UTC an, 6502 & 6503 für den kommenden Mittwoch. Damit hat SpaceX bis jetzt 9522 Starlink-Satelliten gestartet, von denen sich noch 8270 in der Umlaufbahn befinden und 8253 einsatzbereit sind.
"Les hommes seront toujours fous; et ceux qui croient les guérir sont les plus fous de la bande." - Voltaire
Zitat SpaceX capped off the month of August with a Sunday morning sunrise Starlink mission. This was the company’s ninth time launching its broadband internet satellites this month alone. All told in 2025, following the deployment of the 28 satellites on the Starlink 10-14 mission, SpaceX will have deployed more than 1,900 of its Starlink V2 Mini satellites into low Earth orbit across 77 Falcon 9 launches. Its latest flight lifted off from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station at 7:49 a.m. EDT (1149 UTC). It flew on a north-easterly trajectory upon departure from Florida’s Space Coast.
Update Aug. 31, 10 a.m. EDT: SpaceX confirmed deployment of the 28 Starlink satellites.
Zitat One of the more curious aspects of the 10th flight of SpaceX's Starship rocket on Tuesday was the striking orange discoloration of the second stage. This could be observed on video taken from a buoy near the landing site as the vehicle made a soft landing in the Indian Ocean.
This color—so different from the silvery skin and black tiles that cover Starship's upper stage—led to all sorts of speculation. Had heating damaged the stainless steel skin? Had the vehicle's tiles been shucked off, leaving behind some sort of orange adhesive material? Was this actually NASA's Space Launch System in disguise?
The answer to this question was rather important, as SpaceX founder Elon Musk had said before this flight that gathering data about the performance of this heat shield was the most important aspect of the mission.
We got some answers on Thursday. During the afternoon, the company posted some new high-resolution photos, taken by a drone in the vicinity of the landing location. They offered a clear view of the Starship vehicle with its heat shield intact, albeit with a rust-colored tint.
Musk provided some clarity on this discoloration on Thursday evening, writing on the social media site X, "Worth noting that the heat shield tiles almost entirely stayed attached, so the latest upgrades are looking good! The red color is from some metallic test tiles that oxidized and the white is from insulation of areas where we deliberately removed tiles."
Tuesday's test was largely successful. There appeared to be an issue with one of the Raptor engines in the upper stage later in the flight, which has not yet been detailed by the company. Damage to the engine bay and one of the vehicle's flaps can be seen clearly in the new photographs. This did not appear to impact what was a soft and precise landing in the Indian Ocean, but obviously it was not nominal.
Flight Test 11: SpaceX has not revealed a profile for this flight test. It will almost certainly be the last Starship based on the version 2 design, which has been an interim step before the company moves to the larger V3 vehicle, with newer Raptor engines and design improvements. For this reason, it is likely that the 11th test remains suborbital, with the goal of demonstrating Raptor performance in space and testing additional changes to the heat shield. It may also fly a different or steeper reentry angle to further stress the heat shield. This test could occur in the October time frame.
Flight Test 12: This likely will be the first flight of the V3 Starship. Because of this, it will probably follow a suborbital trajectory. Why is SpaceX flying all of these suborbital missions? When Starship flies into orbit, the company wants to be sure it can control where and when it comes back to Earth. Starship is the largest human vehicle to ever return from space, and large chunks would survive an uncontrolled reentry. So SpaceX wants to be confident in its operation of Starship before orbiting the vehicle. Consequently, the first flight of V3 will probably be a standard suborbital test of the ship, booster, and heat shield. Expect this flight in early 2026.
Flight Test 13 and 14: These missions will likely continue to test Starship V3. Assuming flight test 12 goes well, we could probably see a booster catch attempt on flight 13 and probably the first orbital flight, complete with operational deployment of Starlink satellites in this range. This is clearly the most important interim goal the company is working toward, as these larger Starlinks should improve network speeds and performance and increase direct-to-device capabilities.
Flights 15 to 20: At some point, we'll stop calling them test flights. During this range of missions, we can expect to see SpaceX make its first attempt to catch a Starship upper stage (Musk said recently this could occur on flight 13 to 15, depending on how V3 flights go). Somewhere in here, SpaceX is also likely to launch two Starships to conduct an in-orbit refueling test, demonstrating the ability of two Starships to transfer propellant. This is a key step toward allowing Starships to go to the Moon (for NASA's Artemis Program) and Mars. At this point, I think it is safe to predict this test will occur no earlier than the second half of 2026.
Zitat SpaceX targeting Oct. 13 for next Starship megarocket launch
Flight 11 will be the last launch of Starship's current "Version 2" iteration.
SpaceX's Starship megarocket will fly again less than two weeks from now, if all goes according to plan.
SpaceX announced on Monday (Sept. 29) that it's targeting Oct. 13 for Starship Flight 11, which will be the final launch of the vehicle's current "Version 2" iteration. Liftoff will occur from SpaceX's Starbase site in South Texas. The window on Oct. 13 will open at 7:15 p.m. EDT (2315 GMT; 6:15 p.m. local Texas time), SpaceX wrote in an update on Monday. The company will webcast the action, beginning 30 minutes before liftoff.
The next variant — Version 3, which will debut on Flight 12 — is larger still, at 408 feet (124.4 m) tall. But the rocket will get even bigger over time, if all goes to plan: Version 4, which is expected to debut in 2027, is expected to be around 466 feet (142 m) tall.
t 01:25. MAX-Q. 02:44 MECO 03:10 Boostback burn. Von den 13 Motoren haben 12 dafür gezündet. 06:14 landing burn - erst 13 Motoren, dann 5, dann 3 (ganz wie vorgesehen). 06:51 Wasserung des Boosters im Golf von Amerika. 09:15. SECO. Nominal orbital insertion. 157 km Höhe. 19:36. First demo satellite released. 25:00. Last of the 8 satellite simulators deployed. 38.00. Re-ignition of one engine. 43:00. 107 km Höhe, jetzt über dem Indischen Ozean. 46:48. 90 km Höhe. 21.000 Zuschauer beim Livestream. 48:45. 80 km. 52:00. 70 km. Ship moving into sunlight. Clouds moving below. 56:30. 60 km. 19.300 km/h. 59:11. 50 km. 12.800 km/h. 1,5 G. 01:01:31. 40 km. 6300 km/h. SpaceX has a drone flying over the landing area. 01:02:00. 30 km. 2900 km/h. 01:03:40. 20 km. 890 km/h. 01:04:35. 10 km. 590 km/h. 01:05:57. Landing burn. 01:06:10. Hitting the water, after a banking maneuvre.
After Flight 10, another picture-book flight.
"Les hommes seront toujours fous; et ceux qui croient les guérir sont les plus fous de la bande." - Voltaire
Zitat Chris Combs (iterative design enjoyer)@DrChrisCombs This video of the Starship touchdown is INCREDIBLE -BUT- Ship 11 did not hold up as well as I initially thought. This thing was literally cooked. Nose on fire. Tiles missing everywhere. Lots of damage near flaps and burnthrough on tank. How reusable would this be? 11:13 PM · Oct 14, 2025
Zitat Newest Starship booster is significantly damaged during testing early Friday
SpaceX had big plans for the upgraded Starship vehicle that failed on Friday morning.
Eric Berger – 21. Nov. 2025 13:12 |
During the pre-dawn hours in South Texas on Friday morning, SpaceX’s next-generation Starship first stage suffered some sort of major damage during pre-launch testing.
The company had only rolled the massive rocket out of the factory a day earlier, noting the beginning of its test campaign, it said on the social media site X: “The first operations will test the booster’s redesigned propellant systems and its structural strength.”
That testing commenced on Thursday night at the Massey’s Test Site a couple of miles down the road from the company’s main production site at Starbase Texas. However an independent video showed the rocket’s lower half undergo an explosive (or possibly implosive) event at 4:04 am CT (10:04 UTC) Friday.
Post-incident images showed significant damage, perhaps a crumpling of sorts, to the lower half of the booster where the vehicle’s large liquid oxygen tank is housed. Neither SpaceX, nor company founder Elon Musk, had commented on the failure within a couple of hours of its occurrence on Friday morning.
The likely loss of this vehicle, “Booster 18,” is significant for SpaceX. Although the company is hardware rich—indeed it has built a massive factory in South Texas to churn out such vehicles—it nonetheless had a lot riding on this rocket. This is the first Starship Version 3, which was intended to have many design fixes and upgrades from the previous iterations of Starship vehicles to improve the reliability and performance of the massive rocket.
Friday morning’s failure was less energetic than an explosion of a Starship upper stage during testing at Massey’s in June. That incident caused widespread damage at the test site and a complete loss of the vehicle. The Booster 18 problem on Friday appeared to cause less damage to test infrastructure, and no Raptor engines had yet been installed on the vehicle.
Nevertheless, this is the point in the rocket development program at which SpaceX sought to be accelerating with development of Starship and reaching a healthy flight cadence in 2026. Many of the company’s near-term goals rely on getting Starship flying regularly and reliably.
Zitat SpaceX@SpaceX Booster 18 suffered an anomaly during gas system pressure testing that we were conducting in advance of structural proof testing. No propellant was on the vehicle, and engines were not yet installed. The teams need time to investigate before we are confident of the cause. No one was injured as we maintain a safe distance for personnel during this type of testing. The site remains clear and we are working plans to safely reenter the site. 4:19 PM · Nov 21, 2025
Zitat More testing will be needed before SpaceX's newest version of Starship gets off the ground.
On Thursday (Nov. 20), SpaceX rolled out Booster 18, the first stage of the company's first "Version 3" Starship megarocket, to begin its first round of tests ahead of the vehicle's next flight test. V3 will take the torch from Starship V2, which wrapped up a year of growing pains with two consecutive test-flight successes, in August and October of this year.
Now, it seems, V3 will have some growing pains of its own. SpaceX announced that tests on the new booster would begin at the company's Starbase facility in South Texas in a Nov. 20 post on X. "The first operations will test the booster's redesigned propellant systems and its structural strength," the company said. But by Friday morning (Nov. 21), the booster sported signs of serious damage.
In a post on X Friday morning, a user by the name of Starship Gazer, whose profile describes nearly half a decade of documenting Starship's development, posted an image of Booster 18 with much of the bottom portion of the vehicle crumpled like an empty soda can.
It appears in the photo that whatever propulsion and structural integrity tests SpaceX performed overnight did their job, and found some faults in the stainless-steel vehicle.
"Very significant damage to the entire LOX [liquid oxygen] tank section," Starship Gazer said in the post.
It's still too early to know what exactly went wrong, according to SpaceX.
Zitat Scott Manley@DJSnM So to me this looks like it's like a ragged vertical tear that's centered on one of the chines. There are vertical tears along the hoops. So if we assume it's associated with the chines then either the welds weakened the underlying tank, or, it's another COPV failure. What about it!?
Zitat @FelixSchlang·6h Aftermath of the Booster 18 test anomaly at Massey's test site. More photos coming soon. Thank you to @redlineheli for getting us airborne this morning! 📸: @Jordanguidry6
Das ist zwar Stand jetzt Lesen im ☕️satz, orientiert sich aber an den bisherigen Erfahrungswerten.
Zitat Lewis Knaggs@lewisknaggs42·4h Booster 19 timeline prediction. This assumes the first section rolls out on the 5th of December. This has the timeline for B18 stacking but removed the huge amount of time while they were testing the aft. The date for cryo is based on B18 if it had a Cryo today although this stacked to cryo time may be longer for B19 as they may have gotten a lot of the pre-cryo work done while they were working on the aft for B18. The times for static fire and launch are based on the fastest times for Block 1 and 2 Boosters.
CyberWizard@CyberWiz_YT·4h You really think it will take two months for them to weld some sections of B19 together? I mean, I get the two weeks between stacked and cryo for adding all additional hardware, but I really don't think it should take them that long to stack B19.
Lewis Knaggs@lewisknaggs42·4h B18 was 175 days to stack. They had a huge gap in that so if you remove that gap it was 33 days to stack most of the LOX tank, the transfer tube rolled out a month later but I reduced that to 5 days for B19 assuming it will be ready sooner than B18, it took 47 days to roll out the aft to full stack so if you add all the reduced times you get 80 days.
If you remove the 25 day gap from aft rollout to fwd rollout and change it to 5 days, then the total stacking time is 55 days which will make the timeline look like this: A2:4 Rollout 05/12/2025 Stacked 29/01/2026 Cryo 15/02/2026 SF 30/03/2026 Launch 24/04/2026
Zitat NSF - NASASpaceflight.com@NASASpaceflight Solid update. SpaceX will have Booster 19 stacked in Mega Bay 1 next month, and the "first quarter of 2026" was indeed the schedule range we were all looking at for Flight 12. Should that go well, watch the cadence really pick up through 2026. 7:31 PM · Nov 22, 2025
Zitat SpaceX@SpaceX The Starbase team plans to have the next Super Heavy booster stacked in December, which puts it on pace with the test schedule planned for the first Starship V3 vehicle and associated ground systems. Starship’s twelfth flight test remains targeted for the first quarter of 2026. 6:43 PM · Nov 22, 2025
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